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PostSubject: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:41 pm

The Lord John books, according to Gabaldon's site, are all meant to stand alone. However, if you want to read them in chronological order here they are:

1. Hell-Fire Club (short story found in the Hand of Devils anthology)
2. Lord John and the Private Matter (Novel)
3. Lord John and the Succubus (Novella found in the Hand of Devils anthology)
4. Lord John and the Brotherhood of the Blade (Novel)
5. Lord John and the Haunted Soldier (Novella found in Hand of Devils anthology)
6. Lord John and the Custom of the Army (Novella found in Warriers anthology)
7. Lord John and the Scottish Prisoner (Novel)
8. Lord John and the Plague of Zombies (Novella found in Down These Strange Streets anthology)

These books all take place during the events of VOYAGER in the Outlander series.

Since this thread is for all of the Lord John books, please be considerate and use spoiler stars when discussing the newest releases (Plague of Zombies zombie and Scottish Prisoner).

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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:58 pm

Lord John has his own thread.......swoon. Thank you, Dopple!

Back to reading Plague of Zombies.......
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:13 pm

FUN!! fiesta excited

New thread!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:59 pm

I have only read two of the Lord John stories: Hell Fire Club and Haunted Soldier. I enjoyed them both, which is saying a lot considering that I don't normally read straight (snort!) mysteries.

I did think the big mystery in Haunted Soldier (regarding the exploding canons) was predictable, but it was still a fascinatingly well researched and well characterized story. I enjoy the historical accuracy and simply love Lord John. And these books are just so....smart. I think I add a couple IQ points when I read them.
But then I'll watch Nickelodeon with my kidlets or dress my dogs up in costumes, and the IQ points drop back off. I'm due to add a few more back in. I'm running a bit low lately.

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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:36 am

star Plague of Zombies star

Good story! Lord John is wonderful, of course. Geillie is there.....LJ thinks she has advanced Syphilis. Ishmael is in the story. This has to be not long before Jamie and Clare show up. I couldn't pin down the exact time frame. Uap?
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:54 pm

star Zombies star
I love that this sets up Geilis and when we meet he a few years later when LJ is governor of Jamaica...Geilis then says that Ishmael (who by then goes from free to her slave???what?) never taught her how to make the Zombie formula and she only has some left! Also that she already has pretty bad syphilis. The whole snake imagery is talked about on Diana's site about the weight being his responsibility. So he has now encountered time travelers, a succubus and zombies! I love her solutions to make them real. maybe he'll meet a vampire next...LOL. We did have that funny ghost scene with Ian, Fergus, Jamie and Claire in the cemetery...LMAO. Oh and Jaime's ghost! And voodoo with Bree and Jamie on that island later. I wonder of any of the other snakes were brought with by Ishmael and if that was a brown recluse spider. Supposedly the leader of the escaped slaves is a real person and that was his real name. Can't wait for Scottish Prisoner!
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:39 pm

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So.....the time frame. From this story, it is still several years before Jamie and Claire arrive?
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:43 pm

Whoa, did Gabaldon change things up and set Plague of Zombies before Voyager?

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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:36 pm

No, Dopple....all the Lord John books and stories take place during Voyager....I think.....?
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:42 pm

I just went to amazon to see about downloading Down These Strange Streets, and wow, are they proud of that anthology. 12.99 for the Kindle version? I'll see if the library has it.

I'm only interested in two of the authors (Briggs and Gabaldon). Ain't no way I'm shelling out 13 bucks. Phooey.

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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:34 am

Yes, all LJ boards happen after Outlander/Dragonfly and before Voyager (well so far), though many people want to see what happened around Echo time or after Voyager like how he wound up with Manoke as a cook. I think this takes place around the time Jamie was at Helwater and I think even before the Geneva incident. Definitely after he gets injured in the last LJ book and I think after SP...but I could be wrong on that. If it is before SP, then isn't SP after the Geneva incident? Maybe I shoudl just look this up?
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:58 am

uap---From what little info I have, I think maybe SP hapens before Zombies but I'm not really sure. Hey, has anyone figured out what fruit LJ was eating on his trek up the mountain? Orange and made his mouth....tingle or pucker, don't remember for sure? It was persimmons. I have a tree. I thought that was really cute.
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:59 am

Happy Scottish Prisoner release day! happy dance

Who all is reading it? Be honest, how many of you started after it downloaded to your ereader last night? roflmao I'll be starting after I finish Envy.

Please use spoiler stars, don't want to give anyrhing away to those of us (me!) who aren't starting it right away.

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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:20 am

I received it on kindle but even Jamie and LJ won;t have my reading interest because of my doggie grief. I will join in when I can in the discussions.

2shay-I was thinking pomegranate, but then I got hooked on the TV show the Tudors and pomegranate is popular even in that time so can't be that.
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:24 am

I have The Scottish Prisoner and am reading it! End of the month....must work, so I won't be hitting it as hard as I would like. One thing that answers a lot of questions, though. At the beginning, DG put in a time thing about the LJ books. They all take place between 1755 and 1765...all of them according to Herself. She says the reading order of the LJ's isn't important at all. So. I expect she knows. Oh, more or less in the same time frame as Voyager.

ETA: Keep in mind that Voyager covered a LONG time span. From right after Culloden until they reach the islands. I think that most of the LJ's are after LJ leaves Ardsmuir and before Jamie leaves Hellwater, or right after.
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:35 pm

I got it this morning and started reading it also but I don't think I'll be blowing threw it sense RL is keeping me busy. What I have read so far is pretty good.
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:08 pm

About half way. So good. Seeing Jamie on an adventure is just wonderful.
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:38 pm

read a little. loved the opening and the visitor who most likely got a good show in the stall...lmao.
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:06 pm

It really is a great book so far. Is Tobias Quinn in any of the outlander books? He just seems so familiar.

Oh and I am loving Tom!
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:22 am

Oh. heart heart heart Jamie heart heart heart

Finished....... heart

I won't say a word until more of you have finished the book. heart
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:02 pm

I am at 82% just hit chapter 36.

star SP star

I know it's dumb sense I know LJ was alive in the outlander books but when he was fighting in that duel and was stabbed in the chest I started panicking. I really have not been a big fan of his but the more I read this book the more he really is starting to grow on me.
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:19 pm

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That was a really nice thing Jamie did for Betty. I still find it so amazing that after all the years that have passed that he loves Claire so much and though she is gone still considers her his wife. heart I wish we could have more of Jamie. I would really love to see more of how he was after he left helwater and even his time being married to Leghair.

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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:02 am

Me, too, Starbrites! I would love to see Jamie's time with Leghair and the time he set up his print shop and started his smugling business. And....I would like to KNOW if he was fooling around with the whores....though I really don't believe he did.

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I just loved the way the book started and ended with Jamie dreaming and reaching for Claire. sigh So romantic.
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:49 am

Not looking not looking

star chapter 10 or so (before chapter called "next day") of SP star

OMG BIG Stephan and Lord John.....OMG
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PostSubject: Re: Diana Gabaldon- Lord John Grey   Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:51 am

I must ask, who do you think was the second head in Jamie's dream. the 1st was Geneva and the second has curly light brown hair. Could it be the "brown-haired French girl" from the Graphic Novel?
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